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hey guys im completely new to this site this is my first post so sorry if i sound stupid here or not but i have a 95 lt1 camaro with a brand new 4l60e in it so i dont want to swap trannys but i do want to switch it over to full manual valve body so i can run a ratchet shifter i know people have done it but im new to this and need to know how what parts to buy ect.. i also plan on a shift kit and 2000 stall which ones will i need? but i for sure want to fmvb where i have to shift myself all the time with a ratchet shifter as much help as possible would be appreciated and if anyone has pics of there setup that would be nice too thanks guys!:D
 

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a manual valve body conversion can be achieved easily with something they call a 'stage 3 shift kit'. there are various brands..

since it's an electronic trans, you can do it all in the computer if you want too.. putting all kickdown and shift points way out of range should do it..
 

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i dont want to just do it in the computer i want to actually full manual valve body swap but i need to know what to buy
 

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Nobody makes a GOOD manual valve body for a 4L60E. Trans Go makes a kit to convert a regular valve body to manual, but in every case we've seen, you end up with a toasted transmission. The reason nobody makes one? Easy... The 4L60E is so tuneable there's never a need to shift it yourself. We have customers running in the 9's with 4L60Es with both hands on the wheel.

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then what transmission swap would i want to do to have full manual valve body because thats what i want is to just have fun shifting myself while i drive
 

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The car will go slower with a TH400 just because of how much HP it robs. The 4L80E is even worse. In EVERY case we've seen, a 4L80E is guaranteed to be 2/10s slower than a 4L60E
 

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Cause the guy who sells built 60e's says they will, and the guy who builds 80e's says they won't go any slower.

Who knows.
I build both 400s and 4L80Es also. I don't just SAY they will...It's a proven fact that they will. Now let me educate you. Rotating weight soaks up horsepower, as does and type of friction. Teansmission rely on efficiency to make HP too. A 400 doesn't have the low first gear ratio that a 700/4L60E does, therefore they won't 60 ft. as hard. We've seen people go from a footbrake 4L60E to a transbrake 400 and the 60s drop off. A 400 is stronger, but it takes more HP to turn because of the rotating weight, and it's not as efficient as a 4L60E. A 4L80E is an overdrive/electronic version of a 400. A $l80E is not only MUCH heavier, it eats even more HP than a 400. I've also witnessed first hand not only slower quarter mile times, but a substantial reduction in RWHP on a chassis dyno.

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so is the transgo kit a good kit that i can buy and then be able to hook up a ratchet shifter because thats really all i want is succesful ratchet shifting not looking to be faster just want to have a fun automatic
 

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so is the transgo kit a good kit that i can buy and then be able to hook up a ratchet shifter because thats really all i want is succesful ratchet shifting not looking to be faster just want to have a fun automatic
Trans Go makes about 2 good parts. Their shift kits aren't one of them. Any shop that uses their shift kits should be avoided. They obviously don't know what they're doing. I have already explained that the TG "manual valve body" kit will burnt the transmission up.

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Trans Go makes about 2 good parts. Their shift kits aren't one of them. Any shop that uses their shift kits should be avoided. They obviously don't know what they're doing. I have already explained that the TG "manual valve body" kit will burnt the transmission up.

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Agreed... The transmissions that I do use some kind of kit on (most Chrysler trucks, some Fords) get a Superior. I also use a ton of Sonnax parts, but they're usually individual parts, not necessarily "kits".
 

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Agreed... The transmissions that I do use some kind of kit on (most Chrysler trucks, some Fords) get a Superior. I also use a ton of Sonnax parts, but they're usually individual parts, not necessarily "kits".
Yes, I like the Superior kits in E40Ds too. I use numerous Sonnx parts as well. I think knowing NOT to use a Trans Go kit is what seperates a "Transmission Builder" from a guy, standing at a bench, building a transmission...LOL There's a huge difference between the 2. I always tell any potential customer, "Even if I don't end up building your transmission, please avoid any shop advertising that they use Trans Go kits." In many cases, Trans Go has to modify something in the exact opposite way than is beneficial. Their thoughts on accumulation is absurd!
Dynamic, you've been at this for a long time too. Do you remember when the Trans Go instructions for a 700R4 told you to put the trans in manual low with it up on the lift and pry in on the servo cover until smoke comes out the dipstick tube? They claimed this was "seating the band". No!... That's burning the band up!...LOL For those who don't know, this was applying the 2-4 band in manual low, when it's not supposed to be applied.
I've disproven everything that the TG kit for the 4L60E claims to help. The only 4L60E part they make that's worth a crap is their .500" steel boost valve.

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LOL...! Now there's a blast from the past! I do remember that...! That was definitely one of their better ideas!

Yeah, I use Superior kits in the E4OD's, 4R100's and 4R70W's all the time. The Superior 46RE/47RE kits and also the 48RE kits for the Chryslers are really good, also.

The TransGo 4L60E boost valve is a good piece. I also use their E4OD/4R100 steel accumulator regulator valves quite a bit also. I see a lot of flaking anodizing on the factory aluminum ones, causing them to stick.
 

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well it seams the 4l60e will never be good enough for me to have a ratchet shifter so that brings my next question 700r4 or th350 for ratchet shifting?
 

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