i have seen a lot of the 3800 with the plastic intakes warp/crack/blown gaskets who the hell knows i know they go bad alot. i had a Bonneville with a 3.8 never over heated and the damn thing leaked and hydro locked the motor.It just doesn't make sense to me from what I see at the shop that the 3800 are built that strong. It seems like something happened around 96 or so that these engines went down hill.
I dont know if it's just becuase they are so popular or if it's the fact that at one time or another they have all overheated and warped the plastic intake to the point of filling the crancase with coolant.
But I have never in my career seen an engine come in so often with bottom end problems.
This car has way more than what you mentioned and the car that is closer to what you mentioned pulled a 12.63. That's not low 12s to methe SC3800 is built well and has heads that flow like stage heads. A stock turbo and long block GN has been 11.37. No reason to doubt a turbo3800 won't be slow.
THe car that laid a 12.63 could have been running low boost, I guess it was a bad example on my part. THe other car ran faster than a 12 with just rocker arms and exhaust, which I would assume anyone putting a turbo on would have exhaust done anyway.This car has way more than what you mentioned and the car that is closer to what you mentioned pulled a 12.63. That's not low 12s to me
I am also not saying a 3800 can't be fast, cause they can be ungodly fast! Hell, I saw a Firebird pull an 11.3. It didn't sound anything like a V8 so I found him and talked to him. The car was an N/A 3800 Firebird. His car was sick.
I would love to get my old v6 m112 car back. The power was insane for a v6. I could run a 12 easy. and still hang with the shelbys. What i like is the satisfaction you get because mostly gt owners are cocky as hell when they see a v6.I can't believe I made that mistake a long time ago.
Bought a v6.....got attached to it and just kept trying to make it fast.
I realized a simple forged rebuild would cost me out the ass.....THEN I still had to drop another $5000k on the procharger....then I had to get it all tuned and troubleshoot it.......realistically.
Then I had to swap the Rear, Trans, Brakes, driveshaft, pay for tires......
I just realized it wasn't worth getting into debt JUST to prove a v6 can hang with v8's.......plus likely blow my motor and have all the high maintenance that comes with owning a supercharger...
Second time around I just went straight for the v8, and it only cost me $3k.
And it's cheaper/faster for the money.:lol:
The last time I got next to a mustang GT on the road I jumped on it at a 35mph roll and smoked the tires sideways next to him. I guess my little buick v6 with the stock turbo was a bit too much...on 22psi:devil::thumbsup:I would love to get my old v6 m112 car back. The power was insane for a v6. I could run a 12 easy. and still hang with the shelbys. What i like is the satisfaction you get because mostly gt owners are cocky as hell when they see a v6.