I dont have a very positive outlook on them, I have seen really built ones in the 9s and 10s, but I have also seen the same trans that are supose to be built, all by reputable places, gernade in low 11 sec cars constantly. I like my 4L60, because having over drive rocks, but if it went, I would be very tempted to go down to Transking or Circle D and get a TH350 built, I have plenty of friends in the mid 9s w/ TH350 cars