Guess I'll stick with my new old $20 pc bought from thrift shop. My last $15 pc died on me about 10 days ago so I went out and bought a brand new bottom of the line e-machine at Walmart. It had 4 gigs of ram, 500 gig hd, but right out of the box it would loose the internet connection every time I put it to sleep. I know it was just a bottom of the line model, but I still expected it to function well from the start. I'm on and off the computer, probably 20 times a day. After speaking to the tech support in bumf**k India, people who English is a 2nd language, and have such heavy accents that you can't understand them. It's frustrating talking to customer service that hires people off the street. I'm by no means a computer expert, but when I know more about the machine then tech support does, we're all in trouble. Anyway I took the computer back and got my $20 compaq. It's old and slow, but I got it full to the brim with 1.5 gig memory. It gets on the internet every time, so I guess I can live with that. And win xp runs all my old programs just fine.