the other day i was coming home from school when me and one of the guys i go to school with, who has a 1999 civic hatchback that was gutted: no power steering and no ac, no back seat, no insulation,for weight reduction and a 1998 acura integra type R motor 5 speed with cold air intake. VTEC!!! woopdeee!!! was at a red light with some old woman between us. when the light turned green i heard his engine rev and tires squeek so i floored it i got up to about 80 (had to stop for next red light) and had about 3 cars on him at the least. talked to him the next day and he said i took him and he didnt miss any shifts. the funny thing is he just paid $10,000 for that car :lol: and ive got $5,000 in mine :thumbsup: . thats why i have a V8, cheaper to mod and more power to start with.