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Lloyd elliot stage 2 rwhp ?

whts up guys i talked to lloyd today about my rwhp numbers i made 327rwhp and 407rw tq. i had eldelbrok heads ported by lloyd and got his stage 2 package with his 226/234 109 lsa cam, full exaust 30lb injectors 373 gears 3000 edge stall converter dyno tune, ported intake by lloyd elliot and 58mm throttle body, 1.6 pro mag roller rockers. I was told by lloyd tht i should hve made 370rwhp plus any ideas guys? I have a 95 impala ss

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dyno graph is posted on the link thanks guys, just trying to get as many opinions as possible
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do you have a tune?

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Its an auto, not a dyno queen.

Take it to the track, see how it runs.



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post #4 of 37 (permalink) Old 11-06-2010, 09:22 PM Thread Starter
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ya i had the car dyno tuned, follow the link and see the graphs of my graph that i posted above, both before the bottom end rebuild and after, both tuned by the same place, but the cam and heads was installed from different shops
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What brand of opti-spark are you running, sounds like you have alot of
good perf. stuff on your motor. What about the block? anything done to it? how many miles on it. Ever do a leakdown test or compression test on
the motor? any results from those tests.I dont remember what you said about your exhaust system,but I am sure you are aware these motors like to breathe! ed
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Those are awsome low end #'s. I am no expert, but I think you are lacking fuel. It just drops off like you have no more fuel?
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Yes i definetly plan on getting it to the track asap, and i have CIA long tubes, K&N CAI, High flow CATS from CIA, hooker catback exaust. And I have a Delco Opti, ya i went all out and, i'm telling you i have been to hell and back litterally with this car and still can't get it right. I'm about to really give up. Plus the dyno is from when it had 100k bottom end the blue graph and the red is after the bottom end rebuild only about 3500 miles on it. Block was honed at the machine shop
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How is your fuel pressure?

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I understand i have 30lb red svo injectors, delco fuel filter, walbro 255lp fuel pump, am i not getting enough fuel, the injectors should definetly be big enough right?
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wouldent' the dyno show good fuel pressure or the car would not run right, if the fuel pressure was a problem right. I don't have an aftermarket fuel pressure regulator on the car
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my tuner never said that there was anything wrong with the AF ratio at all
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Was the converter locked or no?

Looks to me like the torque converter just screwed up the dyno readings with the crap loads of torque down low and falling off so fast. Ignore the low end torque, with stalled autos its not going to be accurate. Didn't the dyno give a readout of the afr?



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ya exactly and no he said that the converter wasen't locked on either of the runs, ya that' what's i'm saying it just falls off quick as hell
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no that's all that he sen't me i'll have to have him send me those readings as well
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I just skimmed through some of that other thread and the power it made on the 100k mile engine seems about right to me for your setup, it had to be something that changed from then to now IMO, but track times would tell a better story.



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