View Full Version : my new impala ss
georgia2thaheart
02-01-2007, 04:28 PM
i have a 95 ss impala, i bought it used from a guy with 89,000 miles aand i'm trying to get ther 400 mark but without stroking, can you give me a list of ideas, bolt ons exc. I am doing a cam and head swap along with new posi, 383 gears new bearings and rings, Ported LT1 intake and 58mm throttle body from eldelbrok ,heads, ignition, spark plugs, distributor, all from MSD, custome tune,exaust from hooker . I currently have a K&N cold air kit also. Am i going in the right direction, to reach my goal.
Chris 96 WS6
02-01-2007, 04:33 PM
Its all going to be in the heads/cam combo. Fully ported LT1 heads and a 230/236 cam will get you very close to 400rwhp. You'd need longtube headers for that combo too.
georgia2thaheart
02-01-2007, 04:45 PM
1 xCOMP Cams GM LT1 & LT4 350 Xtreme Energy 290HR-12 Cam (1993-1996 And i have hooker short tube headers, how does that look
georgia2thaheart
02-01-2007, 04:46 PM
Plus i have heads from eldelbrok also
95SSMan
02-01-2007, 05:02 PM
how many of the items above do you currently have? what is your budget for this project?
mike
georgia2thaheart
02-01-2007, 05:35 PM
i have everything, i am just waiting for everything to arrive in the mail, i wanted to get an estimate on horsepower before i put it all together
mrcadillac
02-05-2007, 08:00 PM
Don't take this the wrong way, but you need a new game plan! Those edelbrock heads are not much better than Stock Alumium heads. Also, if it's 400 GROSS hp(like most the engine builders rate them) at the crank you want, it can be down with the best bolt ons, and a well thought out cam(meaning, not overly HUGE). If it's 400 at the wheels, have some stock Alumium heads ported by Llyod Elloit, Advanced Induction, or the like. IIRC, those edelbrock heads cost about 1,500 a pair... thats what it would cost to get some KILLER stock ported heads. And they will blow them edelbrocks WAY outta the water. If your serious, and you don't wanna do things twice, or waste money on items when you could have something better for less... Start your reading here: www.impalaSSforum.com (http://www.impalaSSforum.com) .
Also, the stock rings are VERY good, and replacing them with anything but Mahle replacements, along with a good hone, is not a good idea. Also, in the Vendor Section of ISSF, theres a guy named Karl Ellwien(3rd fastest heads and cam Impala) who offers a budgets bearing ring kit.
Who makes 3.83's for the 8.5" 10 bolt? I know of only 3.73's, and 3.90's. but only 3.73's will be able accept an Oem(3.73's specfic) reluctor to keep ABS. I seriously advise you to read that site and search it. and ask questions when you get stumped. It Will be VERY worth your time.
Is there a certain 1/4 mile time your looking for? or just a fast car? There are heads and cam Impala's(at the full 4200lbs) going high 11's. In a STREET setup! Also many many bolt on stock cam/heads cars going low 13's(at full weight), and quite a few in the 12's at full weight with only a cam and bolt ons.
So, what are you after? A friend of mine has his Roadmaster(same driveline as the SS) in the low 13's on the stock cam/heads.
georgia2thaheart
02-05-2007, 11:22 PM
damn you are right but i am just getting into the whole horsepower thing and i wanted my ss impala to be my first setup, besides the new camaro coming out in 09. But me and a friend just went off of what we new he has a 33 trans am and is trying to do some of the same things to his car. But the reason that i diden't ask was because i had already perchased my parts and my car before i even joined a forum. But i definetly will know next time around. And those gears are 373 gears, it was a typo. But ya i should have asked around more i know. especially for the head and cam package. and ya i'm just looking for a fast car not for too much at the drag stip, just a everyday driver with some real muscle behind it. But based on my parts so far how would you rate it. thanks
mrcadillac
02-06-2007, 12:51 AM
shorttube headers are a waste of time(atleast in my mind). and the heads... I hate to say it, since you already bought them, but they are not much better than stock. I will try to find an Article I saw a few months back. They compared a bunch of sets of heads on a mild 383(forget the details), but I remember the vortecs, and some edelbrock heads where in there. Vortecs are nothing but stock Iron LT1 heads, made for a GEN I block(pre LT1). The Edelbrock heads made maybe 10 hp more. But overall not worth the time. Now I don't know how the GEN I stacks up agaist the GEN II stuff. But since all a GEN II head is, is a re-cooling passages routed Gen I head... Also, when you put a bigger cam in that thing, unless your ok with it being slow off the line like a turbo 4 banger... you will need a higher stall converter to compliment those 3.73's. Not any kind tho... Many are plain junk. Unless it's a $500+ unit, don't bother. And even on the stock cam, those cars LOVE a 3000 stall. Many of them respond even better to a 3400 stall. Same roady guy has a 3000 stall edge in his car, and it is amazing. when he slams it it his 3200rpms and GOES. Plus, it drives better(tighter, took less gas pedal) that the stock 90 F-150 I was driving. i was VERY against a high stall, but I will have one very very soon. And his highway milage was not effected, due to the lockup. The hooker catback for the car is pretty good. My caprice has it, and that car has gone 14.2 with nothing more than headers, exhuast, intake, and PCMforLESS. Also, the 58mm TB will be overkill with those heads. but if you already have it, no sence in selling it to get a 52mm. plus, you will never need to upgrade. whos doing the custom PCM? The MSD cap and rotor seam to be pretty good. What plugs? autolites seam to be the 11 second guys favorite. Same with the N2O guys. Autolite 104's. cheap, and they perform. can't comment on wires. I use MSD, but there are some other pretty good brands out there.
What are the specs on the cam?
vBulletin® v3.7.4, Copyright ©2000-2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.