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lt1firem6
01-16-2007, 06:48 PM
I need some info guys I am getting ready to replace the bottom end of my engine next week with a lt1 long block that I am buying from my friend its not brand new but it has 47k less miles than mine 101k actually out of a 93 formula,I am also doing a full gasket set,getting the heads refreshed and doing cc ''r'' lifters and pro magnum rr's 1.6 and cc chromoly pushrods woundering if it would even be worth doing the sts turbo on it or should I just build the engine n/a,it runs perfect but I have been reading about boost and 100k being a bad thing I only plan on running about 4-5max until I save up enough for a engine built for boost

Zupercharged28
01-16-2007, 07:28 PM
well why dont you build that long block with forged stuff and THEN boost it later? because an sts rear mount would help out ENORMOUSLY! and seeing that youve posted this in the forced induction section im going to say REAR MOUNT THAT BEAST! :cool:

lt1firem6
01-17-2007, 03:12 PM
well why dont you build that long block with forged stuff and THEN boost it later? because an sts rear mount would help out ENORMOUSLY! and seeing that youve posted this in the forced induction section im going to say REAR MOUNT THAT BEAST! :cool:
I read one of your other replys and your runnin 7.5psi,how many miles do you have zuper,what mods other than s/c

Zupercharged28
01-17-2007, 04:12 PM
other than s/c i have shorty headers (barf) a rebuild trans with a 3600 stall and shift kit, full FMU system, and sone non-motor mods (tires, wheels, LCAS, torque arm and subframes). i have 55k miles! im thinking of getting a boost controller to turn down my boost though i dont feel like risking my poor motor. after that im not sure whether H/C package and run same boost, or to go forged and run more boost... i need a tune though. BAD. im not sure if i have stock injectors or not though, ATI did the whole S/C setup. remember a stock lt1 shouldnt be subjected to more than 8 psi. the good thing about higher mileage boosted motors is that they can run boost since their compression is usually lower from usage.

Snigga
01-17-2007, 04:46 PM
I would say leave it be. N/A is the way to go without forged internals. Both zuper and myself know this best.;) It is always the same options: 1)buy the sts and start saving up for when the motor goes 2) save up for the forged setup and run whatever you want afterwards. It is your call and you will have fun with the turbo for however long it lasts, just be aware that it will cause your motor to go boom eventually.

Zupercharged28
01-17-2007, 05:22 PM
haha not me man, snigga knows best. forge that stuff and let her rip! just dont let he go POW! plop plop plop bawwww or however it sounds

lt1firem6
01-18-2007, 07:11 PM
thanks guys,I think I will just save up for the complete short block built for boost,I am only 3700 away and another 3000 away for the turbo,damn thats more than I paid for the car lol

Zupercharged28
01-19-2007, 06:10 PM
wow! youve got a little waitin to do huh? hahah nice choice though you will be verrrry happy! and of course dude thats what we're here for!

koolaid_kid
01-30-2007, 12:33 PM
I lurv my butt turbo. With 2 boost levels, I don't worry as much about grenading the engine. But to each his own.

snakeoilperformance
01-30-2007, 06:12 PM
well my .02 cents.. unless you or sumone you kno personaly owned the motor before. you never can gurantee any miles.. you could have a 140,000 mile motor that was well maintained. and could drive it way past 200,000.

then you can have a 70,000 mile motor that was beat up, and not maintained well, and blow up before 100,000..

i got my car from sumone who bought it from govt auction. my car was driven by a prosecuter, so it was in good shape.. i drove it for like 40,000 miles and sprayed it ALOT..

now, if i had a motor that was beat, and 75% of the time they are, it would have blown before 40,000 i added..

so, you never know and when you add boost or nitrous, it does put a strain on the motor, so if the motor was beat to begin with, ya find out the hard way. eventualy

instigator1225
03-05-2007, 12:59 PM
if i were you id build it for turbo..... chill till u get the money and do the system right.


and jsut run around on low boost for DD and then crank it up when you need a little kick of power... just dont spike it over decent levels.


i still ahvent had a turbo motor go boom from boost..... somthing usally goes before that

Zupercharged28
03-05-2007, 04:42 PM
well if i were DOUBLE you id just make a forged 383 stroker kit for the price of a turbo kit. thennnn save for the turbo kit as well! that way you have NA power ANNND forged internals by the time you get the boost. then youll be... out of town fast

snakeoilperformance
03-05-2007, 10:26 PM
well if i were DOUBLE you id just make a forged 383 stroker kit for the price of a turbo kit. thennnn save for the turbo kit as well! that way you have NA power ANNND forged internals by the time you get the boost. then youll be... out of town fast

let me tell you. turbos are the way to go, BUT you will spend ALOT of monery.

first i was gonna just put a turbo, then i got talked into twins. and then i built a motor, since i was buying a crank, why not stroke it. make alot more power with more displacement. then i was like well, better be able to tune it. then got an accell gen 7 setup. added up after a while.

... on the other hand, theres tons of power, and with tuning very reliable, easy to tune. very efficent power. we have had 383-388 motors with same kit still get 24+mpg on a nice street tune. then put her on kill mode at the track and run low tens. driven home 4 people and the air on:D

now i got lucky, i did alot of work myself. also worked for a race fab place (which makes the kit). i did that for a living, so i made a few of these kits

but to make a long story short. build a decent motor first, save for turbo and get sumone who can tune it well. but while your saving for the turbo, do as MUCH research as you can.

sorry for the rambling. drinkin coffee, have to go put a few hours worth of work on the car after this..

good luck man

lt1firem6
03-05-2007, 11:05 PM
let me tell you. turbos are the way to go, BUT you will spend ALOT of monery.

first i was gonna just put a turbo, then i got talked into twins. and then i built a motor, since i was buying a crank, why not stroke it. make alot more power with more displacement. then i was like well, better be able to tune it. then got an accell gen 7 setup. added up after a while.

... on the other hand, theres tons of power, and with tuning very reliable, easy to tune. very efficent power. we have had 383-388 motors with same kit still get 24+mpg on a nice street tune. then put her on kill mode at the track and run low tens. driven home 4 people and the air on:D

now i got lucky, i did alot of work myself. also worked for a race fab place (which makes the kit). i did that for a living, so i made a few of these kits

but to make a long story short. build a decent motor first, save for turbo and get sumone who can tune it well. but while your saving for the turbo, do as MUCH research as you can.

sorry for the rambling. drinkin coffee, have to go put a few hours worth of work on the car after this..

good luck man
I almost got in a hurry and changed my mind,but I figure why build on a stock 350 bottom end,I mean right now my whole car is torn down so I might as well shot as high as I can yeah it may take a year or more but when my car is pushing 700hp I know it will be worth it:thumbsup:

Zupercharged28
03-05-2007, 11:11 PM
oh fo SHO! that will be a nssttty car! there is just sooo much work and so easy to spend SO much. everything you add seems to require something else.

snakeoilperformance
03-05-2007, 11:12 PM
yea.. you just need to sit and think what your end goal is.. dont wanna have to do stuff twice. build a fresh motor and then put a turbo on it and have to take the motor apart to put better parts in it because you want more power!!

it took me along time to buil my car, and it sucked for a while. but now thats its done (somewhat) but have drove it and made passes. its so worht the wait.. i know it wont blow up on me. but with good maintnece part last alot longer, and everything needs refreshing here and their.

even with good parts, when you make alot of power, you will always break stuff.

Turbo-Zone.com
03-07-2007, 07:55 PM
Some good advice given. Just take your time with the route you choose. I see too many guys rushing into things to get their car ready for summer, then as luck would have it, they forget something and...BOOM !

Give us a call if you have any other questions. We've helped and guided many to their FI goals.

Alocc003
04-12-2007, 10:43 AM
Im also thinkin about buying an sts rear turbo kit for my 01 trans am... right now its stock but i only have 37,000 miles on it do u guys think that if i do rear mounted turbo first on the stock motor and not too much later build the motor will it will be ok? Cause i also want to get a cam that will make the best power with the turbo..... and all this talk about motors blowin up scars me a little cause motors cost big money!!!

Turbo-Zone.com
04-12-2007, 11:18 AM
Alocc -
The STS kit works good and is relatively easy to work with. However, I've taken OFF more STS kits than I've ever had people ask me to custom build a rear mount kit for their car.
Talk to a few guys that have/had owned them. If your drive your car everyday and live in an area with heavy rain, they are NOT fun to drive.
As with anything, there are UPS and DOWNS.

If you get a turbo setup and keep the boost relatively low, with a good tune, some good gas and talk with a very knowledgable turbo company - COUGH, COUGH - then you won't have any issues.

Take care and feel free to ask more questions. You will definately learn more asking more questions.

Alocc003
04-12-2007, 06:07 PM
do u mean u build custom rear mounted turbo kits?

Turbo-Zone.com
04-12-2007, 06:36 PM
Yes, I've done a few custom setups for racing and twin setups. Strictly show and go - not daily drivers. ;)

Rex
10-03-2007, 09:41 PM
Yes, I've done a few custom setups for racing and twin setups. Strictly show and go - not daily drivers. ;)

You know I just ordered my STS kit but I live in Australia so rain here is only in winter time. about 280 days of sunshine.
For me the STS seems like a great investment. I'm only looking to get about 400+ ponies to the ground.

Turbo Zone if I had found you on the web when I was searching who knows, you might have been doing my butt turbo.