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wc00ac
08-11-2005, 09:34 PM
After replacing the FPR and making sure I had no vacuum leaks. I still have issues. When I crank the car up it idles and runs good then after a few minutes it starts acting up. Has a rough idle and starts cutting out and eventually dying. Going down the road you can't keep it running either. Questions

1. Could it have learned the wrong idle? My air intake elbow dosen't have the silentcer tube, I had it closed off the best I could but some air was getting by.
2. Could the plugs be fouled bad enough to cause problems.
Up for any suggestions! I'm getting disgusted with it. Need some help. :angry:
sleeperSS
08-12-2005, 06:29 AM
unmetered air can ruin driveability, i would start there
contraststriker
08-12-2005, 06:51 AM
Try replacing your ignition control module with a new one, or a friend's. My buddy's Z had the same problem and he put in my ICM for a day, boom fixed.
Fastbird
08-12-2005, 07:04 AM
What sleeperss said. Unmetered air getting into the system past the MAF will cause big time driveability issues.

How long approximately after start up does it take before the motor starts to degrade?? Have you verified fuel pressure during the running issues?? Had a chance to watch the car on a scanner?
wc00ac
08-13-2005, 06:34 AM
I bought a OBD I scanner from Orielly's yestarday and it didn't work on my car. When I pluged it in it made the light go away, but nothing else happened. I thought my car was OBD I. Any suggestions as to why it woudn't work? I also changed out my plugs. My old ones were only in there for about 2 weeks and they all looked fouled. I haven't had the car running long enough to tell if this made a difference yet. But my light is still on in the dash. I also think I got the air sealed up till I can get a new elbow.
sleeperSS
08-13-2005, 06:44 AM
how old are your O2's?
revolutionary
08-13-2005, 10:09 AM
does it run bad just after the o2's heat up or just after then engine gets up to normal temp? On your tuning how is the cold idle set compared to your normal idle and mixture?
wc00ac
08-13-2005, 04:06 PM
does it run bad just after the o2's heat up or just after then engine gets up to normal temp? On your tuning how is the cold idle set compared to your normal idle and mixture?

How would I know these things?
Chris 96 WS6
08-13-2005, 04:08 PM
YOu need some kind of scan tool to monitor when the car goes into closed loop. See if it runs different at start up vs. when it gets warmed up.
wc00ac
08-14-2005, 12:50 PM
YOu need some kind of scan tool to monitor when the car goes into closed loop. See if it runs different at start up vs. when it gets warmed up.

It runs great a start up. Its after a few minutes it starts acting up. BUT I haven't ran it longer than a few minutes since I change the plugs.
wc00ac
08-14-2005, 12:51 PM
how old are your O2's?

These were the O2's that were in the car when I bought it.
sleeperSS
08-14-2005, 01:58 PM
well the scanner would help you to diagnose if they are bad
wc00ac
08-14-2005, 05:03 PM
well the scanner would help you to diagnose if they are bad

Which type of scanner will work on my car?
sleeperSS
08-14-2005, 05:32 PM
i use autotap on my car....but my options are different than your because of my OBD2 and i cant honestly say that i have looked into OBD1 scanners that you would need. im sure someone can chime in with some options. i will say that after getting tha autotap for my car i dont know how i ever got by without it, scanners are very usefull
NXSLT1
08-19-2005, 02:17 AM
I use datamaster on an OBD1 conversion. Does pretty good for me.