anyone run an 05 stang gt yet?

[F-Bobby]

just wondering what to expect once i put my old motor in my new car but im wonderign how well i would do against one with my slighty modded 350 TPI. ive seen them runnign low 14s high 13s at the track, that seems about where they are. right on par with an lt-1.

[Chris 96 WS6]

Not yet but did you see HP TV this weekend? The supposedly LS1 equal 05 GT put down 255 stock.........welcome to 1993 LT1 territory finally.

After exhaust and intake it put down a more respectable 271. Still far from stock LS1 territory.

[1970judge]

Havent run one yet but my cousins has a silver 05 gt. it sucks. Plain and simple.

With the 5spd auto i could drop to first rev it and hammer her and nothing. No wheel spin but second gear is nice pull for a mustang though.

[cb94ta]

I beat a blue auto one by about 5 cars in the ta, then ran a coworkers new one last weekend, his is a stick but a put 2-3 on him, up to 100 and I was starting to pull harder so may have been ugly for him. :twak:

[loudmouthzls1]

bobby i ran into an auto one on the street the other day and it was close till we 50 and i slowly started pulling on him

[Vendetta]

My friend has a 98 GT with PI heads, M5 swap, longtubes, 4:10 gears and said he ran one from a roll and pulled about a length.

[ThrashN]

I think the 05's have great potential.

10.47@ 131 mph


http://www.racersden.net/forum/showthread.php?t=43229

[Vendetta]

I think the 05's have great potential.

10.47@ 131 mph


http://www.racersden.net/forum/showthread.php?t=43229

They definitely have better potential than the 2V 4.6s... that extra valve there gives you some great possibilities. I'm eager to see what limitations they'll run into though, they hit 10s pretty quickly.

[ThrashN]

They definitely have better potential than the 2V 4.6s... that extra valve there gives you some great possibilities. I'm eager to see what limitations they'll run into though, they hit 10s pretty quickly.

I think he got the 10 with a shot not sure how much. I know he ran an 11 with gears, suspension stuff and some kind of CAI (maybe a chip of some sort).

[1970judge]

Yah the regular 2 valve 4.6's are hard to get goign fast stock some kid at dyno day put down like 193. But some guy with a 2 valve 97 cobra put down liek 259 or somewhere in there. And it was cammed to it sounded nice.

[Turo]

At least they look pretty good :fluffy:

[ThrashN]

Yah the regular 2 valve 4.6's are hard to get goign fast stock some kid at dyno day put down like 193. But some guy with a 2 valve 97 cobra put down liek 259 or somewhere in there. And it was cammed to it sounded nice.

Cobra's are 4 valve motors (well the 4.6 cobra's).

[GriffZ28350]

funny you pasted this thread. i was coming home from work mybe 2 hours ago and ran into one on the highway. an older guy, probably 50-60, pulls up next to me and nods his head. at first i thought he was just sayin nice car, then he stomped it, i was like wtf?? so i went along with it, and lets just say the race didnt last long after i nailed it. i slowed down for him to catch up but he wouldnt roll up near me again, lol.

theyre stock numbers are pretty pathetic, i must say. i read a magazine article when they first came out and it dynoed 260. but as you guys said, i think there is potential there. im waitin to see what the new cobra can do

[TheRoad64]

Heard any stories about the new Mustand dynoing low? I've heard some horror stories about 03 Cobras that dynoed below 320 .

[Vendetta]

Heard any stories about the new Mustand dynoing low? I've heard some horror stories about 03 Cobras that dynoed below 320 .

Every 03 I've heard of dynos in the 360-370 rwhp range. They run very strong from the factory, but weigh a lot.

[ThrashN]

Every 03 I've heard of dynos in the 360-370 rwhp range. They run very strong from the factory, but weigh a lot.

The 03-04 Cobra gain a crapload of power from simple mods (pulley and chip). Alot of the guys in this area are switching to a solid axle also.

[TheRoad64]

Solid axle? are you kidding me? Must be 1/4 mile whores...

[F-Bobby]

Solid axle? are you kidding me? Must be 1/4 mile whores...

yeah but when ya think about it, it just turns it into a GT suspension wise. so the handling isnt that ad. plus those IRS's cant handle hard launching.

[contraststriker]

None of the new mustangs will come out to play :( Hmmm...I guess I don't sound stock with the cam...damn.

[Vendetta]

Solid axle? are you kidding me? Must be 1/4 mile whores...

I'd guess it's not so much out of want but necessity, the Cobra IRS can't take that much shit when it comes to a hard launch.

[Enthusiast]

Road and Track ran a pretty quick 4.9 0-60 in an 05 but no one my friends, with mostly stock LS1s (One an Auto one an M6) have yet to be beat by the 8 or 9 05 GTs ive seen around here.

[gettinthere]

I've ran a few. I have a more than slightly modded LS1 and it was a joke each time. I pulled on them even while spinning.

[Enthusiast]

My best friends dad has a pretty extensivly modded ls1 camaro made for auto-x (hes amking 440hp at the wheels) and he just eats those 05s for lunch.

[Frosty]

I raced one...a blue one...had about 2 car lengths on him by 90. I don't think he could drive though lol

[Mercerius]

None of the new mustangs will come out to play :( Hmmm...I guess I don't sound stock with the cam...damn.

So far they won't with me.

Couple weeks back a guy in a Lightning pulls up to me on the highway - smiles and gives me a thumbs up and I reply with the same and we end up messing around playing leap frog on the highway. We come up to a white 05 stang driven by a guy probably in his late 20s and all he does is get out of our way. Been that way with just about every mustang I encounter. I'm thinking it's time to put in a muffler. :p

[Lifeisgood]

yes, in my red one, and got him by about a 1/2 a car.
it was a conv. though so it prolly weighed a little more.

[PearlZ]

i thinks its funny that Ford is finally catching up to the power of fbodies 12 years ago!!!!!! bout damn time but at least mustangs are still on the road...

[Gabez28]

I ran in the 1/8th. I ran a crappy 8.2 to his 9.2 . But it was humid as hell. He had an exhaust I think in better conditions they are in the 8.8/ 8.9 range. Hell thats where I was with an exhaust 4 yrs. ago in a car 10 yrs. older.

[PearlZ]

haha i would love to run one with my stock 305 and after he lost and asked what i had tell him "its a stock paperweight with headers"

but i bet they will have a hige aftermarket and start to become something to worry about, just like all the possibly modded stangs now

[Chris 96 WS6]

I haven't noticed that the mod motor has ever caught on with the aftermarket like the 5.0 did. I think the LS1 is the new 5.0 in that respect. The DOHC stuff is just too expensive to sell parts for and make any money. You sure don't see the diverse array of products for the 4.6's that you do for the LS motors.

[josh99ta]

Still waiting for my chance to bust some '05 Stang bootay. <devil smiley here>

[StoleIt]

raced one in the vette and walked it like an old granny. wasn't even a challenge.

[phelan]

I haven't beat an '05 yet but it's just a matter of time :thumbsup: .
I did beat a 2000ish GT, you can read about it here:
http://www.ls1lt1.com/forum/showthread.php?t=997

[Enthusiast]

I haven't noticed that the mod motor has ever caught on with the aftermarket like the 5.0 did. I think the LS1 is the new 5.0 in that respect. The DOHC stuff is just too expensive to sell parts for and make any money. You sure don't see the diverse array of products for the 4.6's that you do for the LS motors.
I couldnt agree more and thats what i keep trying to explain to people. Almost everyone out here, outside a few of my friends, are mustang lovers. I hate new stangs but ill still talk to the guys because there car guys and drive V8 powered rear-drivers, How bad could they be? Almost all of the guys i talk to that are heavily modified and N/A say it wasnt even worth it because there still losing to internally stock LS1s. One guy told me before his 04 mach1 he had a 99 TA. He said he changed cams in both cars and he said LS1 took him about 7 hours and the GT took him a week. He said if he could he woulg go back and not do the cams because the hassle just wasnt worht it. Ive always thought that you can't have a engine that is embraced by tuners if its a pain in the @$$ to work on. I think thats where Ford went wrong witht he Mod Motor. Ive worked on many 5.0s and had a lot of fun but i never dared venturing into the heart of a 4.6

[davesLT1]

This is a f-body site, the least you guys could do is not say nice things about cruststangs!!! All mustangs are slow. A cobra is not the same to me as ford motor company did not originate the name cobra, it took a wonderful man named CAROL SHELBY to come up with that name... And correct me if i am wrong, but MR. SHELBY built all the fast mustangs back in the day, and now JACK ROUSH builds all the fast ones,with one exception the SALEEN, wich i am sure they had help with.F-BODYS WILL ALWAYS RULE.....

[Frosty]

This is a f-body site, the least you guys could do is not say nice things about cruststangs!!! All mustangs are slow.

You're a tool.

[Enthusiast]

Like hell all mustangs are slow! Ive seen a bored and stroked and Turbocharged 5.0 that could lift the front of the ground on the street. Sure we where on a grippy ass road and he was on slicks, but that is still a sight to behold.

[Transamman25]

Destroyed one about 2 months ago .. on a poor running LT4 .. im not impressed personally

[senicalj4579]

are these stangs really as bad as everyone says? the #s show that they do 0-60 in 5.25 and 1/4mile in 13.85. dont get me wrong;i own a z-28 and i love beating on stangs but are the 05 models over rated?

[davesLT1]

Any motor that has been bored stroked or any major build is gonna be fast!!! Iam talking from the factory. I know that lt1 f-bodies arent the fastest but its better than any factory cruststang... Hell yes 05 gts are highly overrated..

[senicalj4579]

wtf!!! seems like there overrated every year lol

[Enthusiast]

I just cant wait till one of you guys saying all mustangs is slow gets WALKED ALL OVER by a modified cobra, It will make me smile, and make you think twice about big generalizations.

[davesLT1]

Once again you said MODIFIED COBRA, I am talking FACTORY MUSTANG not COBRA!

[senicalj4579]

or how about a non super charged cobra? the gm boys would eat that motha up. how much boost are those cobras pushin?

[LT1-TA]

or how about a non super charged cobra? the gm boys would eat that motha up. how much boost are those cobras pushin?
they have 8.5:1 compression and 8 lbs of boost.... and capable of taking 22 or so...

[davesLT1]

I agree, if you take the boost off,and run a cobra against a lt1, or ls1 f-body, and i would put money on the f-body!!!! My old boss has a 04 cobra 5600 miles and i've seen 10 psi of boost with the pedal to the floor.Iam talking FACTORY MUSTANG not the COBRA...LET me supercharge my lt1 and i'll run any and every ford motor product with maybe the exception of the NEW GT40....

[Enthusiast]

Since when is the mustang cobra not a mustang. Thats like saying a Z06 isnt a vette.
Mustang Cobras also come from the factory, so it seems a Cobra is a "FACTORY MUSTANG"

[95Formula]

Since when is the mustang cobra not a mustang. Thats like saying a Z06 isnt a vette.
Mustang Cobras also come from the factory, so it seems a Cobra is a "FACTORY MUSTANG"
correct, but you said 'modded' mustang. his point was stock vs stock. either way i respect the 03 cobra. but to me, it seems that the only way for can make big power from the factory is with a supercharger slapped on top. anything they have that is n/a is slow (from the factory) compared to f-bods. the fox body 5.0's were quick. but even they only had what? 250hp? (correct me if im wrong)

now...i did have a lil plan in mind to really piss people off. let me know what you think. take a 90 fox body stang and drop in an lt1 & t56.

[senicalj4579]

Ok, so lets just say screw it all and make it a fair ball game and shove 8 pounds of boost down the ls1!!! sound fair?!?!?! Lets see what happens then. PUHLEAS

[Enthusiast]

I was thinking about doing the same thing with a fox body and putting an LS1 in it so I could go to the mustang shows and be like well ford just doesnt know how to make a good motor so I had to put an LS1 in it. AHAHA

[96redlt1ta]

I was watching pinks a couple week's ago, the 80's mustang had a chevy 355, i was like haha you had to get a chevy to be fast.

[davesLT1]

All you guys are great!!!!! That is a rather good idea,LS1 or LT1 into a fox body not a bad idea at all,that would be a sight to see.....

[synistermotorsports]

correct, but you said 'modded' mustang. his point was stock vs stock. either way i respect the 03 cobra. but to me, it seems that the only way for can make big power from the factory is with a supercharger slapped on top. anything they have that is n/a is slow (from the factory) compared to f-bods. the fox body 5.0's were quick. but even they only had what? 250hp? (correct me if im wrong)

now...i did have a lil plan in mind to really piss people off. let me know what you think. take a 90 fox body stang and drop in an lt1 & t56.

94-95 5.0 rated at 215 hp
96-97 4.6 2v rated at 215 hp
98 4.6 2v rated at 225 hp
99-04 4.6 2v rated at 260 hp
05-06 4.6 3v rated at 300 hp

kind of scary isnt :devil:

I believe the earlier cars were aroung 200 hp

[95Formula]

I was thinking about doing the same thing with a fox body and putting an LS1 in it so I could go to the mustang shows and be like well ford just doesnt know how to make a good motor so I had to put an LS1 in it. AHAHA
LMAO! thats what im talking about!!:roflmao:

[95Formula]

94-95 5.0 rated at 215 hp
96-97 4.6 2v rated at 215 hp
98 4.6 2v rated at 225 hp
99-04 4.6 2v rated at 260 hp
05-06 4.6 3v rated at 300 hp

kind of scary isnt :devil:

I believe the earlier cars were aroung 200 hp

:eek: ouch! lol.

[davesLT1]

I will be registering my z28 on tuesday and i sear iam gonna spend all day trying to whop any and all stangs in the VEGAS area be on the look out for liscense plste DAVSLT1........................

[crazytglo]

i ran against an 05 and needless to say i lost because my opti went out when i hit redline in third at about 80. sucks im lookin for that rematch though

[burnzilla]

i ran against an 05 and needless to say i lost
:lol:

[quiet_storm98]

i ran one a while back..we were at a light and when it turned green he punched it (i wasn't expecting him to try and race me) so i took off behind him and by the time i was halfway thru third i had walked him and his front bumper was at my door..so overall it was pretty slow but definately quicker then the old ones

[davesLT1]

the other day i wooped an early 80's 5.0 in my 96 saturn 1.9... I started behind him at a turn and when we turned, his car was puffing black smoke and making noise but didnt go anywhere. By the time i hit 60 i was in front. Once my oil leak is fixxed i'll use my z28 to woop some cruststang butt!!!

[97 TA]

Got a hold of one going about 70-80 on the freeway going to get my new motor in, my brother was drivin my lt1 with programmer and K&N . The guy looked and smiled (like he had a turbo or somethin) they both hit it we pulled him about 2-3 carlinks @110. I kept watin for him to take off but he just stayed back there:lol: he never came back up to our side:roflmao:




If the streets were full of rustangs , They would be full of sh!t !!!
but, since we have the lt1 ls1 we keep the population down on the streets (there scared to come out ;)

You ever sit back and watch a fellow F-body drive through a pack of car's ? Its like a shark looking for somethin just to tear apart every body eases back so it doesent get alarmed and mistake them for pray. HAHA

[aceman29_5]

all mustangs should be put in the junkyard to rot forever lol gms rule

[Grims]

Ok, so lets just say screw it all and make it a fair ball game and shove 8 pounds of boost down the ls1!!! sound fair?!?!?! Lets see what happens then. PUHLEAS

You would blow your engine is what would happen.

The entire argument on "If you supercharge an fbody" is so stupid I can't take it anymore. The Cobras are built to handle the boost, our fbodys are not, and even if they were...so what? The Cobra still came with it fromt he factory. It's like the mustang GT guys saying "Well put a 5.7 in a mustang and..."

[senicalj4579]

You would blow your engine is what would happen.

The entire argument on "If you supercharge an fbody" is so stupid I can't take it anymore. The Cobras are built to handle the boost, our fbodys are not, and even if they were...so what? The Cobra still came with it fromt he factory. It's like the mustang GT guys saying "Well put a 5.7 in a mustang and..."

8lbs of boost would blow up an ls1? i think not. 8lbs of boost is safe for these cars. parts are good for 500 hp. only thing not rated for 500 is connecting rod bolts.

[Grims]

8lbs of boost would blow up an ls1? i think not. 8lbs of boost is safe for these cars. parts are good for 500 hp. only thing not rated for 500 is connecting rod bolts.

The engine is to high of a compression for boost, it would go within months, if not days.

[senicalj4579]

The engine is to high of a compression for boost, it would go within months, if not days.

8 is still safe:thumbsup:

[96lt1m6]

gee thats funny my buddies ls1 has 14lbs and sees 16lbs at times and has for a year amazing what you can do with an intercooler and alky/meth kit:P

[Commando]

I will be registering my z28 on tuesday and i sear iam gonna spend all day trying to whop any and all stangs in the VEGAS area be on the look out for liscense plste DAVSLT1........................


HAHA,, GOOD LUCK MAN :thumbsup: :devil:

[96lt1m6]

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=562594
http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=571054
the key to a fast stang build!

[Jrracing]

Thats way too cool. I would love to own that.

[96lt1m6]

hey i finally got a race with an 06 GT,mind you i only have a cai(homemade)but it works gooood:notworthy ,2.5" catless y-pipe,flomaster and crappy continental 275/40/17s out back.the mods to the stang: could not tell ya. we both spun bad at the start, we recoverd in 2nd,thats when the lil ol faithful lt1 started pullin,3rd gear that gap was gettin bigger i pull 4th and its game over!!!!!!!!!!he pulls up to me and said,man you did not have to sqeeze on me,i was like :eek: i sold my bottle a few months ago, that was all motor!then he said,"the salesman at the dealership told me that i will be beating those Ls1 boys:no: ,then i get spanked by an Lt1...:thumbsup: oh and the gap was roughly 8-10 cars

[davesLT1]

God bless your soul mr. 96lt1m6. That post made my day! I just love to hear about a good gt ass whippen. Great job.....

[Grims]

I enjoy it when people actually take anything a salesman says seriously

[96lt1m6]

hey i almost forgot there was an 05 black GT at the track,known mods are
supercharger 12lbs.,ET streets,exhaust,tune and it was a 5spd his average run was 12.80s the best run for the night was a 12.68..
the other GT was a red 05 with a kenne bell and an automatic,full ex.,slicks and a tune(diablo)his best time was a 12.90 before his tranny went:roflmao: dammn fords!
i can say this much though(big gulp:lookleave )you have to pay attention to the stangs you line up with,04 Mach1 is no joke!they are light weight factory 3.55 gear etc.the motor is the 4 cam from the cobra and it is a hi revvin,gear,tire and x pipe lovin mofo,this car can hurt your feelings...the shakker hood,mach1 badging and the stripe kit is the ONLY way to tell who you are up against:thumbsup:

[Grims]

If they run 13s stock, I don't see how they could only manage high 12s blown. There is more to that story.

[96lt1m6]

of course there is its in the las vegas heat!there has not been any NBS stangs to run 13 anything here.they avg.14.5-15.2 welcome to 108 degrees,5% humidity,DA of 4800':eek:

[Grims]

then 12.8 aint that bad then I guess.

[96lt1m6]

yeah i figured he was about 4 tenths off due to our air

[davesLT1]

I live in vegas too, and can actually feel a difference in the way my car runs in the heat of the day,vs the early morning. The heat sucks......

[96lt1m6]

this time of the year is ok especially 8:30pm-6:00 am:thumbsup:
i love it when friends come out in the summer and freak out when its 118*out at 6pm LOL,then 4am its roughly 100*:eek: thats why our cars run like crap on avg.i can honestly say my Lt1 has never run slower than 14.3in the vegas heat:thumbsup:

[davesLT1]

I would be happy to see that with my car! But in time, i'd like mid-high 12's, even if it means new motor:thumbsup: , and a lot of suspension! Do you run at the midnite mayhem? If you do i'll keep my eye out for you there!

[96lt1m6]

not too often,too many ricers they really annoy me,i will be there though,i always stand by the timeslip booth when i am there..

[davesLT1]

Might go tonite how about you? Maybe we can meet, look over each others cars.

[Grims]

A/S/L?

[96lt1m6]

A/S/L? :eek: :thumbdown
grims you are funny!:roflmao:
may be at track if this wind quits,i thought i saw toto fly past my window

[InlandBird]

We have a couple that come out to the track. They dial 14.00 to 14.05 in typical weather. I have a crappy picture of the one that parked next to me in the pits with his dial in, Just haven't figured out how to post it here yet.

[96lt1m6]

it helps to have that cooler mountain air

[LT1-TA]

We have a couple that come out to the track. They dial 14.00 to 14.05 in typical weather. I have a crappy picture of the one that parked next to me in the pits with his dial in, Just haven't figured out how to post it here yet.




Here at my track the mustangs dont even crack into the 14's... i ran a 14.97 stock and the new mustang ran a 15.15

[lt1firem6]

I can't never seem to come across a gt there either going the other direction or they turn off before I have a chance I think there scared,no I take that back I did come across one but it was the new gt500 cobra,I don't really want to talk about that though,but all the gt's around daytona and I manage to some how come across the godfather of all of them,sucks:mad: