Ford injectors Fit LT1?

jeremyw2585
04-13-2009, 12:46 PM
Will these injectors work on my car?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-New-EV1-30-Pound-Red-top-fuel-injector-4-6-5-0-3-8_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a2Q7 c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1 Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem25 0404577401QQitemZ250404577401QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fT ruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

bobdec
04-13-2009, 02:02 PM
They look like they would, send a note to the seller and ask. Ford number should be M-9593-B302 OR M-9593-BB302. EV1 is the correct connector for our cars. I bet the bid goes over $200 by time it ends, $100 for a new set is to good a deal..Especially now that it's posted here..LOL

95Z
04-13-2009, 02:04 PM
Yep, SVO's work on LT1's too.

StealthFormula
04-13-2009, 02:12 PM
Yes, the injectors in the link you posted will be a direct swap for the stockers. I am running the exact same ones myself and they work great!

jeremyw2585
04-13-2009, 02:24 PM
They look like they would, send a note to the seller and ask. Ford number should be M-9593-B302 OR M-9593-BB302. EV1 is the correct connector for our cars. I bet the bid goes over $200 by time it ends, $100 for a new set is to good a deal..Especially now that it's posted here..LOL

Surely no one on this forum will try to out bid me!! :lol:

jeremyw2585
04-13-2009, 02:48 PM
I am going tomorrow to pick up a set of used SVO injectors. I don't know alot about them so could anyone tell me what to look for before I buy them as far as condition.

myersfw
04-13-2009, 04:35 PM
Yessir - they will work - however - if your '94 is an early '94, as opposed to a late '94, she carries 24lb/hr and the SVOs are 30lb/hr. I'd suggest you get a tune for them, or it'll run pigazz rich and get horrible mileage. I think the late '94s and later models have 28 lb/hr, and that's not such a large difference.

03slowZ06
04-13-2009, 04:41 PM
24's carried all the way to the LS1 cars.

myersfw
04-13-2009, 04:54 PM
That article could've been about Corvettes. LT4 maybe?

michael66
04-13-2009, 05:01 PM
Way too big for a stock engine. My car runs rich with the 24lb. blue top svo injectors. You will have to have a tune to change the injector constant to 30 if you get them or it won't run. You need to look at the pintle caps and see if they are broke. You can buy new kits from Oreillys for about 30 dollars if they are broke, but i would reccomend them anyway if they are used. also make sure none of the plastic around the top is broke. I got my blue tops off ebay for $45 and very happy with them. It seems to run alot smoother and I can tell alot richer.

ShowNoMercy
04-13-2009, 06:23 PM
Yes, the injectors in the link you posted will be a direct swap for the stockers. I am running the exact same ones myself and they work great!

Orly? :lol:

And yea, get a tune and you will be set. :thumbsup:

95Z
04-13-2009, 06:42 PM
That article could've been about Corvettes. LT4 maybe?

Yep, all LT4's were 28, MAF LT1's 24 and 93's were 22.

laux06
04-13-2009, 06:57 PM
i may be wrong, but wouldnt you need a tune even for 24lb svos? seeing how they are meant to be used with ford fp(39psi) where ours is 43.5, prob why your rich with 24lb svos

95Z
04-13-2009, 07:04 PM
i may be wrong, but wouldnt you need a tune even for 24lb svos? seeing how they are meant to be used with ford fp(39psi) where ours is 43.5, prob why your rich with 24lb svos

Correct, anytime anything is different it should be tuned, but I thought the ones in the ebay post were rated at 43.5.

michael66
04-13-2009, 07:05 PM
Yeah it needs a tune, but the injector constant is the kicker. The computer can compensate for the difference as lons as it knows what size injectors it has. The guy that is going to tune my car said something about that, and said the computer will learn a new fuel trim table until I can get it on a dyno.

michael66
04-13-2009, 07:08 PM
My understanding of injectors is that 99% of injectors are rated at 43.5psi, regardless of what fuel pressure they are set at from factory. Fuel pressure is just a tuning tool used by manufacturers. The Ford injectors have a different spray pattern, that is probably why it is richer.

laux06
04-13-2009, 07:08 PM
huh, your right, i jut went back and read it. weird, i was under the impression that all ford injectors were rated at 39. guess i hafta read everything first lol

2fast4u88
04-13-2009, 07:34 PM
The 24lb blue tops will work just fine on the stock tune. They may be a bit rich in open loop but once in closed it'll be like normal.

laux06
04-13-2009, 07:44 PM
"If you're changed your fuel injectors to a larger size, now is the time to change them as well. If you are using the Ford/SVO/Bosch style, you'll want to multiply their rating by 1.056 (24#=25.34, 30#=31.68, 36#=38.02, 42#=44.35, etc.), to accomodate the lower fuel psi rating at which they operate (Ford's 39 vs. GM's 43.5)."

this is where i read about the diff between svo and gm injectors...

http://www.camaroz28.com/forums/showthread.php?t=584031

Tbird232ci
04-13-2009, 09:09 PM
I have a question about this topic. I see you guys say SVO injectors, but then talk about the 24# injectors.

When you refer to SVO injectors, are you referring to the SVO Mustang injectors, or Ford injectors in general?

Reason I ask, the 3.8/5.0/4.6/5.0 and most most Ford applications have high impedance injectors, where has the SVO Mustang, and other 2.3L Turbo cars use a low impedance injector. I know in a Ford, if you swap a high impedance for a loe impedance injector, you will cook the injector drivers in the computer.

Just wanted to get a bit of clarification. Little bit of insight from a Ford guy with an LT1 car :)

michael66
04-13-2009, 10:07 PM
The injectors are high impedence, about 2 ohms higher than factory lt-1 (12 vs 14 ohms). Injectors are rated at 43.5 psi (3bar). Call slp if you don't believe me and ask them what size the ls1 has in them running at 53psi. Mine are ford racing blue top. I think they came in the cobras, most 5.0 guys upgraded to these. Ford injectors are made by Denso, Gm by Bosch.

2fast4u88
04-14-2009, 05:52 AM
Most injectors we use are svo's the blue,red and green tops. So that's what most of us go with. But when i said the 24's i mean the blue top svo's

StealthFormula
04-14-2009, 07:52 PM
Orly? :lol:

And yea, get a tune and you will be set. :thumbsup:

I buy SVO 30's never use them and then sell them to you to get larger ones. I can't afford 36's etc. so I go and buy another set of SVO 30's. :D