Walked an 03/04 Cobra

[BADSZ28]

I was on my way home from a cruise last Friday night and as I was waiting for a light he turned right onto the street I was on. He then went into the left turn lane waiting for that light. My light turned green and as I passed, I threw him a couple revs. He then chased me down and we went for a 30, 40 and 50 rolls. Each up to about 120. I gave him the hit each time but we left very even. By the end of each I had him by about a car, maybe 3/4 of a car depending on the run. They were all pretty close. I have never gone that fast before on roads like that. Kind of scary when going under a bridge or catching up with traffic. We got a light after all that and exchanged mods. He was like that thing is quick. He had only exhaust. I was happy. One more mod on his end and he might take me though. When we stopped at the light we both had the biggest smiles though. He said his radar detector was going nuts and we past a bunch of cops. I had no idea. He was like I am not letting him win.

[99TAW6CONVERTIBLE]

Nice kill :thumbsup:

[Vendetta]

Nice kill, what are you driving?

[BADSZ28]

2002 Z28 M6

[Vendetta]

Any mods?

[gettinthere]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say he's not stock.

[NOSTYLS1]

nice kill

[BADSZ28]

Well...not bone stock but hardly could be called modified. I was on the factory original 16" 245 GSCs. They are just a little dry rotted. I get rubber in 4th LOL.

[loudmouthzls1]

no offense but u need some decent mods to keep up with an 03 cobra never mind put a car on one of them... u sure it wasnt a N/A cobra cause thats more likely...

[contraststriker]

no offense but u need some decent mods to keep up with an 03 cobra never mind put a car on one of them... u sure it wasnt a N/A cobra cause thats more likely...

It was N/A--no way he raced a blown '04.

[BADSZ28]

Sorry but it was a blown cobra. Independent rear, obnoxious rear bumper, reverse scoop hood, fully attached lip rear wing, with wining blower and all.

I have a few bolt ons and a gear. I do not even have headers or a ported TB. Full interior. Some suspension. Nothing big really. Like I said, not stock, but not very modified. Define modified. To me modified is motor work or major weight reduction with full bolt ons or FI.

[contraststriker]

With an '04 Cobra he didn't lose because of his car, he needs to learn how to drive.

[BADSZ28]

He did not miss any shifts. Car sounded like he hit the right gears (even if he did not, those cars torque curve is as flat as a runway so it would not matter). He did not power shift, but niether did I. I was wearing sandals so I had to be careful on my shifts. Look man my car has run mid 12s and is capable of faster. So I do not see why it is so hard to believe. Do you know anything about LS1s? They are much quicker than LT1s out of the box and take better to mods too. I did it, it was not a fluke or a misunderstanding. I absolutely kill N/A Cobras so I do not know why you can not see this happening. If you are just trying to get a rise out of me, I will not waist anymore time on this.

[contraststriker]

He did not miss any shifts. Car sounded like he hit the right gears (even if he did not, those cars torque curve is as flat as a runway so it would not matter). He did not power shift, but niether did I. I was wearing sandals so I had to be careful on my shifts. Look man my car has run mid 12s and is capable of faster. So I do not see why it is so hard to believe. Do you know anything about LS1s? They are much quicker than LT1s out of the box and take better to mods too. I did it, it was not a fluke or a misunderstanding. I absolutely kill N/A Cobras so I do not know why you can not see this happening. If you are just trying to get a rise out of me, I will not waist anymore time on this.

Haha, simmer simmer. I'm not the only one who doubted your story.

[BADSZ28]

I'm cool. Just giving you the 411 on the kill. Any details I overlooked on convincing you or anyone else?

[contraststriker]

out of curiosity: what on earth have you done to your suspension to shave off a full second on the quarter mile? (assuming an LS1 will run 13.4-.5 stock) Mid 12s is a big statement if you've only got one or two bolt-ons and suspension. What exactly are your bolt-ons? Maybe that will explain better.

[loudmouthzls1]

so your saying with a few bolt ons u beat a 390 hp cobra from a roll ??? and like 99% of those things are modified and u must know how much power a pulley adds on those things and u did mention u heard the whine so it might not have been stock....just sayin a bolt on ls1 isnt gonna put a car on a stock cobra and def not a modfied one unless u have some serious mod...my friend has a huge cam and a couple other bolt ons and he still has trouble with the 03 cobras

[BADSZ28]

The guy said only exhaust. No headers or pulley. It did not wine till higher in the RPM band.

I have a cut-out, lid, Free mods, poted MAF, Velocity stack, belows, LCAs, Pro 5.0, 4.10s, LCA brackets, SFCs, and a factory Diablo tune using HP tuners.

Not much really. I would not call this very modified. Just some bolt ons. The suspension mods do little to assist on a roll run anyhow.

[loudmouthzls1]

no offense but with those mods u should be able to hang...not put a car ... but its a street race and anything can happen

[BADSZ28]

It was very clear that I was pulling on him. It was not like I beat him as a driver only, When we were both in gear, I was pulling away slowly. I forgot to mention I have a pulley.

If it is of any value, the car put down 344/361 SAE before the pulley, velocity stack, tune and gears.

[SAPPER]

I believe him due to on our local streets we have a quite a few Cobras and a couple are stock and I ran them with my 02 Z with nothing but a lid & cat-back and walked them, BARELY!!! but I got them. Now, finally, I am up for the modded ones. I'll just open their eyes with the quick PSSSTTT!!! from the cowl (to clear any air) then roll on.

[loudmouthzls1]

i still find it hard to belive with just basic boltons u beat a modded 03 cobra...that thing is dynoing in the 400's it should walk u with a decent driver

[texasheat]

If your truely putting down 344 to the rear wheels then I will have to say that I believe your post! I put down a little over 350 and I have raced to friends with CAI and catback 03 cobras. All races were from 45 mph roll on the highway up to 150 or so. All the races had the same outcome....DEAD EVEN! Now I know those cars have to be putting down close to 400rwhp, but after 8 45mph roll races with two different 03 cobras that were DEAD EVEN I have to say maybe the cobras weight has something to do with it!

In one of the races the cobra took the jump before the 3rd honk and he pulled about 1/2 car and stayed right there till 150. I also left early one race and had the same outcome I pulled 1/2 car, but couldn't pull any more after that.

If he is really pushing 344rwhp and the cobra just had exhaust I say its a believable race IMHO.

[BoltOnZ]

Cobras have more power but they are fat asses...I don't find it THAT hard to believe if that's all the cobra had done. I think most people are used to cobras being modded more...

[CamTom12]

out of curiosity: what on earth have you done to your suspension to shave off a full second on the quarter mile? (assuming an LS1 will run 13.4-.5 stock) Mid 12s is a big statement if you've only got one or two bolt-ons and suspension. What exactly are your bolt-ons? Maybe that will explain better.

stock LS1's run 13.1 with a decent driver, my buddy ran a 12.9 in his but he's a very good driver

[MillaTK]

stock LS1's run 13.1 with a decent driver, my buddy ran a 12.9 in his but he's a very good driver

That's a pretty exact number. Stock LS1's also run 15's. It's all in the driver, but an LS1 f-body is generally capable of mid-low 13's. Of course there are always exceptions...

[BoltOnZ]

Definitely depends on driver. At Shady Side dragway I blew the doors off of a LS1 WS6 w/ a 8.63 timeslip

[LiquidFire350]

Velocity stack
what the hell is that???

and as far as stock ls1s, i went 13.8 in a A4, with a lid, LM, 3.42s im hitting 13.2 and im spinning 2nd

[BoltOnZ]

what the hell is that???

http://fasttoys.net/shop/product_info.php?products_id=1251

[loudmouthzls1]

waste of money ...

[ihaterice]

i belive it all the way, you were racing a ford, remember. lol

[BADSZ28]

waste of money ...

I have to disagree. Cheaper than a ported TB with same outcome. I noticed a difference and so did my brother in his truck. I let him borrow it for a little while.

[NHRAMAN]

COBRAS are faster....SORRY.. :hello: :dontknow:

[HyperTA97]

theres a guy that comes through my neiberhood with a 03-04 cobra. I hate fords buts i have to say it sounds pretty dam good. well i was outside 1 night smoking a cigarette and he went through the neiberhod and turn off onto a long strech of road by my house and punched it. I could hear the whine of the S/C FIVE blocks away!! I want to race him so bad even tho he'd probably eat my lunch for me. I'm pretty sure all he has done to it is a smaller pulley and exhaust work.

[Unit38]

Nice run but a well driven Cobra with near 400rwhp would NOT get walked.... Then again anything can happen on the street.

[95Formula]

now now guys...you have to remember this is 'kill stories & tall tales' and obviously this is a tall tale

[Flip94ta]

I love how you guys are giving this guy a hard time. His car weighs over 300lbs less than the cobra and he has more gear. Does that make up for giving up 50 hp at the rear wheels? Maybe, because they didn't race on the dyno they raced on the street... in august. Its hot out and the mustang has a roots blower with an inadquate air to water intercooler that only has a 16 ounce water reservoir. Many of them are buying the one gallon vortec reservoirs like I have done on my Trans am. I raced a stock looking and sounding blown black cobra twice this summer in nashville. I destroyed him both times. 70-130mph = 5-6 cars. Heat kills FI setups and the factory ford setup is not up to task.

[93zMan]

How many of you have actually even driven a 03/04 cobra? Well i have. they are quick. They are quick in their power bands. Upper Rpms. That Camaro is going to pull torque wise all the way through the upper rpms. Your talking about a slightly modded z over a stock cobra. If he is pushing 350 at the wheels he is taking this cobra...no doubt. I watched my friend give a 03 cobra with slicks and exhaust a five car link head start from a dig in his bone stock 02 z06 and he still smoked it by about 5 car links. dont get me wrong they are quick cars. but im sure that this modded camaro would run with it..easy.

just my 2 cents

[fbodyhp]

coming home from new england dragway an 03 cobra came up beside me and we went for it from like a 65 70 mph roll he walked away from mebut not by much,by the way,at the time i had a 95 ta,i have a 00 ws6 now,what i think is that 03 cobras are over rated and cost to much for what u get compared to a f body that will run,i didnt say beat or loose,i said run,with the cobra for half the price,the driver makes the biggest diference,especially onthe street

[Flip94ta]

Dont get down on cobras too much, with a couple grand in mods and tuning they make over 500hp at the wheels. Setting fans lower and adding a larger water tank to the intercooler set-up make them live up to that HP on the streets.

[loudmouthzls1]

I have to disagree. Cheaper than a ported TB with same outcome. I noticed a difference and so did my brother in his truck. I let him borrow it for a little while.



heard of it being tested does no good....as for being cheaper yes if u pay to have it done...but almost anyone can do a home port job on there throttle body...i did came out fine...

[Transamman25]

OK .. now i have confirmation on his "story" .. I run the local Jiffy Lube .. and had a 03 Cobra in yesterday BONE stock .. while i was there servicing his car we got to trash talking .. we met up last night at the local cruise in spot and ran our cars .. just so ya know my LT4 has very few mods , And my car was running awesome (finally).. we lined em up .. I Beat an 03 Cobra by Half a car length in what we have measured out to be 1/4 mile on the street .. His story is completely plausable .. the cars are strong but can be beaten .. When i get my tune this time this time by my Physics proffessor .. im confident i will have no problems with the cobras .. get out there and race em if your modded and quit whining about the blower ..<-- he he i made a funny

[1970judge]

IF the cobra was stock i belive the guy. Anyone seen a weigh in of a cobra? ****in heavy was the outcome. Power to weight guys.